It was supposed to be a 20 minute repair job, a simple repair, nothing to blog
about. I didn't even take any pictures. The drain valve on the fuel/water separator was broken. Only three screws held it in. Piece of cake, right?
So I had my bucket under the broken drain valve to catch the fuel. Of course, any work on the fuel system is timed to coincide with a full tank of fuel. It's Murphy's law.
The drain valve on my 2008 F250 6.4 Diesel had the lever broken off, so you couldn't drain any water out. I wanted this fixed so in case I ever needed to drain the water, I could.
I took out the three screws and grabbed my pick to remove the two o-rings. Fuel was draining into the bucket and it was getting a little messy with fuel running down my arm, but it wasn't anything I couldn't deal with. I had paper towels and a bucket. It was a little difficult to see the surface where the o-rings seat when fuel was constantly draining out of it.
I replaced the two o-rings, put in the new drain valve, and put it back together. One problem remained. It was now leaking. It wasn't leaking before my "repair". So I took it apart, shined a flashlight on it and saw that it was packed with dirt where the o-rings were. The dirt must have been what jammed the valve, causing the lever to break when somebody tried to open it. I cleaned it up with an old toothbrush. Again, diesel fuel was running down my arm. It's a good thing I buy those blue mechanic paper towels from Costco in the bulk package.
That old toothbrush was too soft. I needed a hard bristle brush. Now I know why they sell hard bristled toothbrushes. Nobody actually brushes their teeth with them. They use them for cleaning.
I thought I got it clean enough, so I put it back together, again. But it was still leaking. So I took it apart and compared the new o-rings to the old ones. The new ones were slightly smaller. Ok, a quick trip to the auto parts store was only 15 minutes away. I used to work at Checker Auto back in my college days. I knew where they kept them. I took the Freestyle because I didn't want to drive the truck with it leaking fuel.
By this point, I had drained and collected about five gallons of diesel fuel, but I didn't catch it all. Somehow, despite my best efforts to contain it, some fuel missed the bucket and was running down the driveway into my neighbor's lawn.
My neighbor, Phil, has the perfect yard. Mine is the kind of yard that drives people to organize those Satanic organizations called Home Owner Associations. I already had one oil leak go off my driveway into his landscaping rocks. Now I've got diesel fuel running into his lawn.
I can only imagine what diesel fuel does to grass. I'm scared. It doesn't just evaporate in an hour like gasoline does. Maybe if I fix his power steering leak for free, I'll remain on his good side.
I decided to try Autozone first. I showed them an old o-ring and they said that they no longer have the drawer of o-rings. You've got to be kidding me. Fine. I'll try O'Reilly. The guy at O'Reilly said they don't carry o-rings that thick. He pulled a set out from under the counter that looked like it came from Harbor Freight. I said, what about your drawer of o-rings? He said they discontinued the drawer of o-rings. I didn't know whether he just didn't know about it, or if the auto parts chains got together and decided to just make life difficult for their customers.
So I went down the aisle and found two assortment packs that appeared to have the right size o-ring. They were fuel-resistant too. Bonus! I had to get two packs because they only had one size of each in the pack. Ok. $14 for o-rings to get the truck to stop leaking isn't too bad. The drain valve kit was $58 from the dealer.
I measured the new o-rings I bought and the outer diameter was 0.515", and the thickness was 0.15", according to my micrometer. They appeared to be slightly larger than even the old o-rings. I thought we were in business. Again, I took it apart and brushed it clean with the toothbrush. These larger o-rings fit perfectly. Once again, diesel fuel was draining and running down my arm as I was cleaning the surface with a too-soft toothbrush.
I finally got it all back together. By this point, I decided it was staying together whether it was fixed or not. I was done. I even got a little rubber cap to put on the end of the drain spout in case it was still leaking. Guess what? It was still leaking - very slowly, like one drop per minute, but it was still leaking, and not out the drain spout. It was leaking around the drain spout, so my little rubber cap solution didn't solve anything.
I even thought I'd get clever and put a piece of scotch tape on the metal piece to serve as a gasket. Because for some reason, Ford decided to put a hole where the o-ring seats, and a hole that stops on the mating surface, without a gasket. Why? I have no idea, but it's leaking fuel. It looks like it was designed to leak fuel. So I left it with a plastic oil catch pan to catch the drips.
Wait. Did I put that pan there before, or after I took the truck to the auto parts store? Because I had one more project I could fit in before the day was over. I was a quart shy on changing the CVT fluid on the Freestyle, so I wasn't going to drive the Freestyle with it low on fluid. I had to take the truck. If the pan got run over, it's not going to work very well for its intended purpose.
I checked, and I put the pan down before I left. But I put it away and forgot to put it under again when I got back. That's just as well because with the way my day was going, the wind probably would have blown it away anyway.
Update 14 June 2016
After trying to get back to this problem for a couple weeks, running at 1/4 tank or less, filling up 5 gallons at a time, I finally got back to it tonight. I had 35 miles left until empty, so tonight was perfect for this job. I parked uphill on my driveway and opened the fuel drain valve. After it drained, I was able to take a closer look and here's what I found.
If you're saying "wait, something doesn't look right", I'm with you. Ladies and gentlemen, this is an example of a casting error. No, not a mistake like Jar-Jar Binks, but where not enough aluminum got into the form when they cast the part. It's what we call in the industry a latent defect. That's where the defect doesn't show up until after the product is in the customer's hands.
When I was working on it earlier, I didn't realize that hole was not intended to be there. There was too much fuel draining and I was in a hurry. If my RTV doesn't fix the leak, I'll have to get another HFCM. Not fun for the wallet.
Monday, May 30, 2016
Sunday, May 22, 2016
DIY Project Phases - Excitement, Drudgery, then Victory!
When I take on a project, I'm usually pretty excited about it at first, but then there comes a time in nearly every big project when the excitement and motivation runs low. Take, for example, the half-way rebuilt transmission in my garage. It's been there as-is for almost two years now. I keep finding more important things to work on.
If there's a necessity, then I usually find a way to get things done. But for the non-essential projects, I'm easily distracted. So I've decided that most big projects go through several phases, among which are:
If I can manage to keep working through the drudgery phase, then I can enjoy the victory. I definitely went through drudgery during the turbo project. I had second thoughts about buying that truck. I wanted to just quit and leave it on the back burner for a while. I'm running out of back burners. It had to get done because it was going to be my daily driver until I got the transmission in the garage done. Yes, that one that's been in the garage for two years.
I was so excited to get the truck, but while I was working on it, I was asking myself "what was I thinking?" I really didn't need another project. But I persisted through the frustration and pain and can now enjoy it.
My neighbor wonders why I have to spend every weekend working on cars. He says he gets his cars to work for him, but I have to keep working on mine. He used to say it's because I drive Fords. Then he got one. See, neighbor? They're not so bad. There are several reasons I work on cars every weekend.
One day I'll probably buy a nice used car. only a couple years old or so. I might someday even buy a new car. But Dave Ramsey says I should have a million dollars in the bank and pay cash for it. Yes, someday I'd like to buy a new car like that. The newest I've ever bought was the 1996 Thunderbird back in 2003, at 54,500 or so miles. It was a great car.
In short, don't give up. Finish what you started. Then enjoy the victory.
If there's a necessity, then I usually find a way to get things done. But for the non-essential projects, I'm easily distracted. So I've decided that most big projects go through several phases, among which are:
- Excitement - dreaming and planning
- Drudgery - doing what you planned
- Victory - enjoying what you've accomplished
If I can manage to keep working through the drudgery phase, then I can enjoy the victory. I definitely went through drudgery during the turbo project. I had second thoughts about buying that truck. I wanted to just quit and leave it on the back burner for a while. I'm running out of back burners. It had to get done because it was going to be my daily driver until I got the transmission in the garage done. Yes, that one that's been in the garage for two years.
I was so excited to get the truck, but while I was working on it, I was asking myself "what was I thinking?" I really didn't need another project. But I persisted through the frustration and pain and can now enjoy it.
My neighbor wonders why I have to spend every weekend working on cars. He says he gets his cars to work for him, but I have to keep working on mine. He used to say it's because I drive Fords. Then he got one. See, neighbor? They're not so bad. There are several reasons I work on cars every weekend.
- I have a bad habit of buying used cars that need help - because I can get them for cheap. I've learned that just because I can, doesn't mean I should.
- I like everything on my cars to work, but don't want to or can't afford to pay someone to do it for me.
- I like to keep my car clean, to the extent I have time - after all the essentials are done.
- I hate oil leaks. My truck's oil leak is driving me crazy. I haven't tracked it down yet. The Cougar's oil leak was toying with my sanity. I felt bad that the oil ran off the edge of my driveway into my neighbor's landscaping feature.
One day I'll probably buy a nice used car. only a couple years old or so. I might someday even buy a new car. But Dave Ramsey says I should have a million dollars in the bank and pay cash for it. Yes, someday I'd like to buy a new car like that. The newest I've ever bought was the 1996 Thunderbird back in 2003, at 54,500 or so miles. It was a great car.
In short, don't give up. Finish what you started. Then enjoy the victory.
Thursday, May 5, 2016
How to Replace the Turbo on a 2008 Ford F250 6.4 Diesel
Me and my truck |
When I replaced my turbo, I sure could have used a step by step guide on how to remove the turbo. It would have saved me a lot of time. So, to satisfy your curiosity, here's what I would do if I had to do this again. I hope I don't leave out any important steps.
At first glance, opening the hood, I didn't know what was what. I've never had a diesel before.
What's what under the hood |
How to get at those awkward bolts |
For many of the exhaust bolts, we'll need a flex head ratchet handle like the Craftsman 44815 because you can put a wrench on the handle and turn bolts facing the opposite direction, like this photo.
Here's how I'd do it if I had to again.
1. Disconnect both batteries and remove the driver's side battery.
2. Drain about 2 gallons of coolant from the radiator.
3. Remove the coolant reservoir / battery box assembly. It's held on with four bolts and some hoses. There's a vacuum reservoir on the bottom of the battery box with a vacuum line attached to the small port. You need to pull the wire retainer clip from the coolant hose end to remove it from the reservoir. Be careful not to bend the clip so you can reuse it.
Battery box / vacuum reservoir / coolant reservoir |
4. Remove the fuel cooler / crossover tube assembly and mounting bracket as a unit:
Disconnect the fuel lines, drain the coolant, and disconnect the coolant lines.
I could have used this guide when I started. It would have been easier to get the coolant reservoir out of the way before this step. Remove the nuts from the three studs at the bottom center of the above picture. The oil dipstick is bolted to the stud on the left (towards the front of the truck). Remove that bolt, pull it off and there's another nut underneath you need to remove also. Then remove the two nuts on either side that hold it to the top of the valve cover. Slide the assembly toward the driver's side. Be careful not to damage the air seals. The air tube from the low side turbo can be pulled out.
The top right stud holding the fuel cooler assembly also holds an exhaust pressure sensor? |
The top left stud for the fuel cooler mount appears in this photo next to the hose clamp for the intercooler. |
Bottom bolts holding on fuel cooler assembly and oil dipstick |
There's the intake side of the high side turbo. It wouldn't turn by hand. Wait 'till you see the other side. |
5. Spray penetrating oil on all the exhaust bolts on the back of the turbo assembly. Remove the small exhaust tube with the sensor on the top and set it aside.
6. Remove the air filter assembly. Loosen the clamp to the low side turbo input. Remove the clamp on the hose going to the oil fill thing. Disconnect the plugs to the air filter monitor and MAF sensor. If the assembly doesn't lift out, there are two bolts supporting the mount: one by the battery, and one by the air intake. This picture is after I removed the turbo.
7. Remove the two banjo bolts that attach the oil supply lines to the turbos. Then remove the four bolts holding the heat shield on. These were rusted and I broke the one that I couldn't access with my electric impact screwdriver. Remove the heat shield. It'll bend a little.
8. Disconnect the exhaust pipe between the EGR cooler and the back of the turbos (7 bolts). This won't have enough room to come out, but you can move it around to access the other bolts you need to get to. You need this pipe out of the way to get at the six bolts holding the exhaust inlet pipes on the back of the turbo assembly. There's a mounting bolt in the middle of the pipe. Get this one from under the truck. Try a 6 point 10mm shallow socket on a 6" wobbly extension attached to a U joint, attached to a long extension to your ratchet handle. For all the 10mm bolts on the exhaust, use a six point socket. Do not use a 12 point socket on any of the exhaust bolts. That may strip them.
9. Remove the six bolts holding the two exhaust pipes on the back side of the turbo assembly. You'll need to get creative with your flex head ratchet. You need to be able to put a wrench on the end of the ratchet handle, so the Craftsman 44815 works pretty well here. Then remove the exhaust pipe from the back of the low side turbo. Don't bend the clip on top. It holds the pipe in place while you clamp it. Lift the pipe up and back. You probably want help here.
10. Remove the two main bolts holding the turbo assembly to the engine. In this picture, I'm on the front bolt. The other one is directly behind it. Don't remove the 10mm nut holding the high side turbo's oil return line down.
Removing the front mounting bolt for the turbo assembly |
The two bolts and brackets that hold the turbo to the top of the engine |
11. With all the exhaust bolts out and the two main mounting bolts out, you'd think you can just remove the turbo. Well, maybe, and maybe not. There are two pins on the bottom of the turbo that may be a little tight or rusted. First of all, the turbo assembly weighs about 80 pounds. So I used a shop crane to try to lift while I used a pry bar. I probably had too much tension with the shop crane which made the pins bind.
Bottom side of the turbo assembly, with the low side turbo on the right |
Here's what the turbo mounts to. There are two threaded holes for the bolts, and two holes for the pins. |
Have fun getting those exhaust bolts off. Good luck. |
Engine compartment after removing all that stuff |
I took the turbo out by moving it towards the driver's side, with a shop crane lifting it. |
The turbo assembly, suspended from a shop crane. A shop crane with a longer reach would have been nice. |
12. I had to use my press to separate the variable vane control from the turbo. It was in there pretty tightly.
Here's my press setup. The punch started to bend, so I replaced that with a 5 mm deep socket and tried again.
Here's my first setup for pressing out the control linkage for the variable vanes. |
So, what did I find?
That's some nasty buildup. Wait, why is the turbofan broken off? |
There's a turbo fan that broke off the shaft, and a lot of soot buildup. Here's where the turbo fan was supposed to be.
Exhaust side of the old turbo, missing the fan. |
The fan blades got pretty chewed up. |
After cleaning up the variable vane stuff |
New turbo cartridge, exhaust side |
New turbo cartridge, intake side |
I made the mistake of being too easy on the throttle after I got it all back together. So it turned on the check engine light for P132B (boost levels not achieved during learn cycle) and P2263 (turbocharger boost system performance). I was trying to get good gas mileage. My truck was telling me not to take it so easy. It'll get up and accelerate faster than any other car I've owned, but it gets 13 MPG.
Update Sept. 2017
I didn't replace the o-ring on the high side turbo oil return when I did this job. It was leaking about a quart every 300 miles by the time I finally took the turbo off again and replaced both the oil return o-rings on the high side and the weird seal on the low side. I was wondering if the two turbos were designed by two completely different engineers because they're so different.
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